Empathy to Impact

Scott Jamieson (he/him): Welcome to the Empathy to impact. Podcast I am very excited to be visiting Frankfurt, Germany. And I'm at Fisw today. With Mr. Chris's grade 4 class.

Scott Jamieson (he/him): And this is gonna be a fun episode cause. It's a podcast about podcasting. And i've got 5 podcasters here with me, talk about a project that they've been working on in class and share their experience as Podcasters. So I'm gonna pass it over to my guests to do some quick introductions.

Christopher Thompson: So Hi! My name is Suzu, and I'm in grade 4 in Mr. Chris's class, and I was originally born in England. But I've just lost my accent, so I don't sound like it.

Christopher Thompson: Hi, I'm Bryson. I'm in grade 3, and I'm from America.

Christopher Thompson: My name is Christian. I'm from Denver.

Christopher Thompson: and yeah.

Christopher Thompson: I'm Ezra. I'm in fourth grade and I'm from Chicago.

Christopher Thompson: My name is Unj, and I am from South Korea.

Scott Jamieson (he/him): It is so great to meet all of you. And I am really excited for our conversation today, because you guys have become Podcasters.

Scott Jamieson (he/him): and I want to start, let's go back to the very beginning.

Scott Jamieson (he/him): How did this whole project get started? How did you guys get into podcasting in your class.

Christopher Thompson: Well, well for me.

Christopher Thompson: I. My partner was angel, but before we even

Christopher Thompson: shop undetermined at all, we had writing in our journals with an idea of what what are you passionate for.

Christopher Thompson: and what do you want people to know?

Christopher Thompson: And many of us picked like stop using plastic, or someone that we thought the world should know really well.

Christopher Thompson: Then we put it down in our notebooks and made like a list of everything.

Christopher Thompson: Then

Christopher Thompson: we were allowed to choose partners or pick partners.

Christopher Thompson: And we started playing around with we video, which was one of the apps we use.

Christopher Thompson: And we started playing around recording ourselves until we got to a stage where we were ready to make the real thing.

Christopher Thompson: Okay. So basically, I

Christopher Thompson: for me.

Christopher Thompson: I spent like

Christopher Thompson: we spent, we all spent 2 months writing basically and doing all of our pages and editing our writing and stuff. And then we did the podcast and we had to redo it, redo it and keep redoing it until we actually had the good one, and that was the first one we did 2 seasons. The first season was that, and then next season we had to do more writing, or

Christopher Thompson: you could do the

Christopher Thompson: same topic that you did before. And

Christopher Thompson: yeah, I did the same talk that I did before.

Christopher Thompson: Yeah, the thing me and Victor did was so I started writing, and then I had idea about doing my topic and

Christopher Thompson: Another guy came in and also did it. So we helped each other, and finding the way, how how we should do it, and then we started

Christopher Thompson: publishing it.

Christopher Thompson: So for us, or like for me, what? We started with writing in our notebook like with something or someone that's really important to us.

Christopher Thompson: and that we want people to know that should be changed. And so we started researching on our chromebooks about more about that topic.

Christopher Thompson: And then we started going deeper into like writing about them.

Christopher Thompson: And then there's the day, that came that said, we're gonna be doing podcasts.

Christopher Thompson: So then we started.

Christopher Thompson: I'm like looking around like

Christopher Thompson: looking around. And

Christopher Thompson: we video with things that we can do and we really use it a couple of times before.

Christopher Thompson: But this time we were doing podcasts. So we were.

Christopher Thompson: I'm learning different new things that we could do. And then we did season one which

Christopher Thompson: you you did it in. We did it in season 2.

Christopher Thompson: So for me.

Christopher Thompson: First

Christopher Thompson: we made writing and our writing opa about what change do you want to make?

Christopher Thompson: What the what will this package will be about? And then we started writing, and then we rewrite it and rewrite it and rewrite it until was good enough to make into podcast and then we started putting that into video which we recorded that. And then we made that to podcast.

Scott Jamieson (he/him): That sounds fantastic. I love that. We've got some technology. Help us out both with our research and putting our ideas together.

Scott Jamieson (he/him): A lot of you mentioned writing.

Scott Jamieson (he/him): What are some similarities you found between the writing process and what you're learning and writing with podcasting.

Christopher Thompson: One thing that I found similar

Christopher Thompson: was, when you're writing, you kind of have to have like a plan.

Christopher Thompson: So it's not so like kind of out of the place, like

Christopher Thompson: if, miss.

Christopher Thompson: it's like kind of direct, like what you need to say, what you need to do, and you can add some personality to your writing. You can add, like different word type of

Christopher Thompson: different word choices that makes it

Christopher Thompson: sound cool or

Christopher Thompson: that sound makes it sound, cool, or funny, but and in the podcast, you could also

Christopher Thompson: the way you say your words, they could be like who are funny. But you can also say it. So it's clear, but still has some personality.

Christopher Thompson: so for me, basically, when I was writing, and I kind of had to like say it in my head, saying how I was, gonna say it on.

Christopher Thompson: Podcast and then, like, I added sound effects in my writing. So I can remember

Christopher Thompson: how to do that. But

Christopher Thompson: and then I memorized it.

Christopher Thompson: Writing for me, was sliding. First, we were doing the unit informational writing. We didn't know we're gonna do podcasts. Then, when we did the first podcast we kind of knew what to do. Then we knew that we had when we found out we were gonna make another one.

Christopher Thompson: We had to refine rewriting to make another one. That's better.

Christopher Thompson: For me, it's kind of like similar when we're doing writing and podcasting because, like, when you're in your notebook, you just write, and then you can always just erase it. If you did something wrong has same thing in when you're doing podcasts like, if you're doing little recordings, you can always redo it because it's really a little. And then, like in your notebook. You saw the rest. You can just do like erase that little part.

Christopher Thompson: and then you can keep on going going

Christopher Thompson: for me. I think the writing was as important as making a podcast because.

Christopher Thompson: If if you didn't made the writing, you probably wouldn't, wouldn't be able to make a really good podcast then, if you make a writing, you can really hook the listeners and

Christopher Thompson: persuade them.

Scott Jamieson (he/him): So many great ideas and connections there. And Unj. I really like that. I think you're right that if we don't have our writing we don't have our story kind of planned out a little bit that

Scott Jamieson (he/him): you know. It's sometimes hard to come up with all that on the spot and be a good podcast.

Scott Jamieson (he/him): And you know, Bryson, I thought you made a good point as well. Talking about. You know the way we speak is sometimes different than the way we write. And so we're kind of writing a script, and that's a little bit different than depending on the other kind of writing we're doing.

Scott Jamieson (he/him): And you also mentioned sounds. And that's harder to do in writing. So I'm wondering, like, what advantages are there in podcasting as a medium, what are some things you can do

Scott Jamieson (he/him): easier. Or maybe you can't do in writing that you can do in a podcast.

Christopher Thompson: yeah, before, yeah in in a podcast

Christopher Thompson: so in writing, you can obviously have words that you can read yourself. But one thing that you can't have

Christopher Thompson: in writing is

Christopher Thompson: when you're in a, podcast you can add like music or sound effects. If you want, or you can add like

Christopher Thompson: layered parts, which makes it like sound smooth together, which in writing you can do. But you have to race and write again and erase, and you can't really add music into writing unless you you put music on. And you're reading your piece.

Christopher Thompson: so in like.

Christopher Thompson: the podcast you can redo. Well, you can do that in writing, too. But it's not that much. But in like the podcast instead of writing with a pencil instead, you could just talk and talk and talk. And but if you write sometimes, your hand just goes like this. And also

Christopher Thompson: it's kinda hard if you're right awesome, because, like you have to like sand in your head. Then put on the paper.

Christopher Thompson: It didn't do it again.

Scott Jamieson (he/him): Any other thoughts

Scott Jamieson (he/him): on what some things you can do in podcasting that are harder to do in writing

Scott Jamieson (he/him): heart.

Christopher Thompson: You're welcome to jump in this account, or.

Scott Jamieson (he/him): Sure. Go ahead. Yeah, if you if you're you're welcome to.

Scott Jamieson (he/him): Yeah, you're welcome to guess.

Christopher Thompson: So you guys love the technology is that when we got onto we video, you were ecstatic. Why for those fun tools for the best part because you love your notebooks. You love writing, but then, when you're on the tech, it was just a whole different world. What was so fun about it.

Christopher Thompson: It's really fun, because

Christopher Thompson: writing is really fun, too, putting it down. And that's also really fun. And it has it. It's it's advantages and disadvantages. But when you're doing tech like new video, it was a new thing to us, and we haven't really done it before.

Christopher Thompson: So it sounded really interesting. And we all just wanted to get right to it. We didn't want to plan anything. We just wanted to go. I wanna make it now. But all that planning paid off, because now we've gone to this point where we can say, Oh, we've done that. Well, when we feel good about it.

Christopher Thompson: Hezard, what are you thinking? Why was the text so fun? I think it's fun?

Christopher Thompson: Because, our chromebooks, we can only have them in school, so we don't really use them, we can't really use them a lot. And so then there's always this opportunity that we can use it.

Christopher Thompson: And so we always get really excited. And because it's a new app, we can learn other cool things to do

Christopher Thompson: music. What do you think?

Christopher Thompson: And so

Christopher Thompson: for me, we video like technology of chromebook.

Christopher Thompson: Maybe like

Christopher Thompson: things that you can't do in writing. You can like, do in with video like you can add cool music and then really find out what music fits. Very well, then, video that can fits well with it and images.

Christopher Thompson: You can't really do that with writing.

Scott Jamieson (he/him): I love that. The thing about how all these different media pieces go together thinking about your voice, thinking about music or video, and how we kind of bring all these pieces together to create a really impactful media piece.

Scott Jamieson (he/him): I think it was zu mentioned earlier about finding a topic that you're passionate about, and something that you feel is important. How were you able to do that? And how did you guys come to your topic to make your, podcast? How did that process work.

Christopher Thompson: Well for us.

Christopher Thompson: We it all started. I'm not sure we did in both classes, but in.

Christopher Thompson: I think, in both classes. We started with

Christopher Thompson: Mr. Chris told us, well, what?

Christopher Thompson: What make informational learning? What is your topic that

Christopher Thompson: you feel really passionate about? Who do you want to write about or

Christopher Thompson: not, who or something. What, like something that you feel needs to be done in the world.

Christopher Thompson: And yep.

Christopher Thompson: he told us to start with that, and we started with that baseline, and it started building up and up and up until we got to a point where we needed to

Christopher Thompson: find someone who's really important to us, and a lot of us picked like.

Christopher Thompson: stop using plastic or stop cutting down trees. And some of us picked people who we feel really passionate about what do we call those people

Christopher Thompson: change makers? Yeah?

Christopher Thompson: And we we build it on. And then we got to the podcast point, the season 2, and then. Now we're here with you.

Scott Jamieson (he/him): Cool.

Christopher Thompson: Really want to make that change or learn about those people. How does that help

Christopher Thompson: for me? It's it's important, because if you kind of. Just sit on the side and just watch as other people make changes in the world, and you wish you could.

Christopher Thompson: It's really fun

Christopher Thompson: to kind of like.

Christopher Thompson: think of what you could do yourself, or and it's also really fun to think about who you are passionate for, to show people what you think is good about them. What you think that you can change in the world.

Scott Jamieson (he/him): Anyone else want to add on to that.

Christopher Thompson: Yeah, I do.

Christopher Thompson: So what change did you want to see pricing?

Christopher Thompson: I wanted to see naps in school. So basically, like, when let me tell you, from the beginning of when I was writing getting stuff.

Christopher Thompson: So I just thought like this crazy idea, what if we had an absolute school, because.

Christopher Thompson: like the preschools and stuff up. And actually, that's kind of unfair because they like.

Christopher Thompson: while we're having like history or something or something, we don't really like that much. They're just having naps. And then it's like, it's not fair, like, you guys have to learn too. And so I said in my podcast that we should have naps from great

Christopher Thompson: 0 whatever first grade.

Christopher Thompson: wherever great, that is, all the way up to

Christopher Thompson: great

Christopher Thompson: and yeah.

Scott Jamieson (he/him): Interesting idea. My son is in high school and his humanities. Teachers tell me that he has a nap every once in a while at school, so I think he would be on board with your idea.

Christopher Thompson: I was like, can you tell us about your change, Maker? Because it was very unusual, in my opinion. Did I agree with your choice at first.

Christopher Thompson: What was my initial reaction? Do you remember?

Christopher Thompson: Yeah, I do, sure. And how did I react when you told me who your Change Maker was

Christopher Thompson: Nope. So I first heard about, well, who was your Change Maker? Was your podcast about Jim Henson, Jim Henson. I was like, alright. Tell me more. And you really had to. What was that word that p word per sued? Okay? And so do you think you effectively persuaded me?

Christopher Thompson: Yeah, I hope. But then tell us, why was it a change maker? Who cares about Jim Hanson? Well, I I would care. I care about him, and I feel like other people should, because he made the muppet show. And I think that's a really, really good like a movie or series that people should watch. And I think he should be known for it, and also Sesame Street. He's one of the characters I don't know which in it.

Christopher Thompson: but like he put in a lot of effort in it.

Christopher Thompson: I think you should be known.

Christopher Thompson: I do know what he's been doing.

Scott Jamieson (he/him): Heather. I have an interesting story to share that when I first went into season, one of those podcasts, the first podcast I clicked on

Scott Jamieson (he/him): was about Jim Henson, and I was wondering if one of you guys were the one who made that one. Because I am a huge fan of the muppet show. I grew up watching that, and we still watch the muppets family. Christmas is a tradition every year in my family. So that was the first, podcast I listen to when I saw that because I thought it was a very unique topic

Scott Jamieson (he/him): for someone in this generation where most people don't really even know what that's all about. So I'm glad you convinced Mr. Chris, to make that topic.

Christopher Thompson: Can you convince me? Because I said, I know Jim has. I know the muppet show, but you were like no, no, that you had some good, clear reasons behind it. You said it was. Isn't the educational show? How? How is the Muppo educational?

Christopher Thompson: Well, because, like

Christopher Thompson: some of the characters like they don't really know much. And then like.

Christopher Thompson: so the characters do like in Sesame Street. Sometimes like they give lessons like they teach each other. Yeah, they teach each other like how to do things, and like some like, teach like the other ones. I don't really know a lot

Christopher Thompson: things that they should know about like

Christopher Thompson: I'll mute

Christopher Thompson: like how no different numbers like no like if you don't really know what numbers like. We have like 1,000, they could help you, or with, like other things like

Christopher Thompson: sharing is caring

Christopher Thompson: so I was Azure's partner.

Christopher Thompson: and the minute I asked.

Christopher Thompson: so what's your change, Maker? And why do you want him to be known like what's so cool about Jim Henson? He was like, well, I got 3 reasons packed. I got well, first of all, because he made an educational show. That's amazing, like.

Christopher Thompson: like many reasons. And I was just blown away. I was sitting there like, Okay, okay, trying to

Christopher Thompson: keep track of them. And I was like, Oh, yeah, those are good. So he persuaded me at the end.

Scott Jamieson (he/him): My father was in university in the early 19 seventies, and that was right around the time Sesame Street first came out. So people would go to like the Student Union Building at Universities University students to watch Sesame Street, because it was the coolest thing that ever happened on television.

Scott Jamieson (he/him): So I think it's really neat that you guys connected with that topic.

Scott Jamieson (he/him): And I wanna go back to something. As R mentioned earlier, you talked about research.

Scott Jamieson (he/him): And how did you guys become more aware of these topics? What kind of research were you doing to become more aware, to be able to share and help other people be more informed about this on your podcast.

Christopher Thompson: So what we're doing, we're touching up on our chromebooks like on epic

Christopher Thompson: or little bit of Google. And we, we're just reading the books and like. So we're learning more topics. And so then they pull facts that we learned. We wrote them in our notebooks, and those are like things that we thought should be in the podcast

Christopher Thompson: I'm doing. Yeah.

Christopher Thompson: I thought I was gonna write about nuclear weapons because I were MUN,

Christopher Thompson: that year

Christopher Thompson: and this year. And I thought, and

Christopher Thompson: the nuclear weapons zoom.

Christopher Thompson: some countries need them, and some doesn't like.

Christopher Thompson: If you now are fighting the people.

Christopher Thompson: you shouldn't have the nuclear weapons

Christopher Thompson: to attack them with cause if we attack them with it. Some of them are very dangerous which could explode

Christopher Thompson: the thing up, and you would even die because you're too close to it.

Christopher Thompson: You're saying you did lots of that from mu N. From all the United Nations. Is that what I heard.

Christopher Thompson: Saturia, your research from usually. Where did you find your research from? Because I just said we use our school resources, Christian said, Model UN. But yours is very unique. Your topic is focus on our school schedule. How'd you learn more about that? So my topic was that similar schedule as fifth grader so I looked at each grade schedule.

Christopher Thompson: but I noticed that they have, like we have more German, then we have less PE than fifth grader. But fifth grader is more German and less

Christopher Thompson: more PE, but less German. So I think it should be like similar. So it's fair to each other. So I

Christopher Thompson: I used my like, I really like PE, so I

Christopher Thompson: use my memory of PE and then also schedule. And then look what, how? It's different, different, and how. Yeah.

Christopher Thompson: Mr. Scott, you're not gonna believe this. But the students voted, and they thought that more PE and less German was a very good idea.

Scott Jamieson (he/him): I am really shocked by the results to that research actually.

Christopher Thompson: We did we? We played it for the whole class, and everyone was

Christopher Thompson: very vocally.

Scott Jamieson (he/him): Well, yeah, you you and Jay, it sounds like you really got your audience attention.

Scott Jamieson (he/him): So that's gonna lead me into my other next question.

Scott Jamieson (he/him): what are some ways, while you were creating your podcast?

Scott Jamieson (he/him): To capture your audience's attention and keep their attention throughout your episode.

Christopher Thompson: One thing that Me. And as you did, since we're in a partnership.

Christopher Thompson: we kind of set, a specific place

Christopher Thompson: like this setting

Christopher Thompson: for azure's podcast since it was about Jimson and the muppets, we set it behind the stage, like right before a show.

Christopher Thompson: So it would seem like, we're trying to hurry, get onto the show and like perform.

Christopher Thompson: and for mine, which was about Amelia Earhart.

Christopher Thompson: we set it on an airplane which was called fisw, or frame for international school airlines.

Christopher Thompson: For

Christopher Thompson: alright. So for me.

Christopher Thompson: the what hook my audience in is basically my music, because I add the music

Christopher Thompson: beginning, and then

Christopher Thompson: the last part was

Christopher Thompson: very entertaining. Actually, how does the music help like?

Christopher Thompson: So when you first it helped me? Because

Christopher Thompson: when I first started, I was very

Christopher Thompson: yeah, yeah, I was very like

Christopher Thompson: shine stuff. And then, like, I thought, if I add music, it'll set the mood and stuff. And then.

Christopher Thompson: and since

Christopher Thompson: I thought other people would do just one music, I did, actually, too. And then I played with music, audio, and stuff

Christopher Thompson: something about that. How do you play with it? Like?

Christopher Thompson: So on on we video, we have this thing, this little line that shows the audio. At the beginning. I had it very high to the highest point, and then I made it go down low, and I made it like that

Christopher Thompson: until I got to the break, and I made it go high and then low again, and then I just kept doing that until I got to the end.

Scott Jamieson (he/him): Very interesting. It's a cool post production techniques in there.

Scott Jamieson (he/him): And so that's gonna be thinking of my next question.

Scott Jamieson (he/him): what skills did you have to learn, to become Podcasters. What did you have to learn to be able to take your writing and turn it into a podcast.

Christopher Thompson: The way I did was like, kind of

Christopher Thompson: first starting within writing.

Christopher Thompson: I was. We were trying different topics. First

Christopher Thompson: we wrote down, and people, and more important for us, like

Christopher Thompson: different ones. And then afterwards. And

Christopher Thompson: we're more thinking about like

Christopher Thompson: topics. And why

Christopher Thompson: in the world?

Christopher Thompson: One like a couple of skills I had to learn was, even though, that I have worked with we video before. And it wasn't the hardest thing for me. Yeah, I still needed to learn how to like shorten things like

Christopher Thompson: well, and to put out some pieces that weren't exactly right in the place, or if you had music, and there was a specific like time, and you wanted to cut out the end so it sound like it would continue going if you added another one. I had to figure out how to do that, and

Christopher Thompson: how to add the right music that made it not like too low, but not too high, but like the right amount.

Christopher Thompson: Mr. Scott apologies if I leave this answer too much. But above, Miss Schuster, that we have our approaches to learning, did you have to think creatively? Do you have to go and solve conflicts? Do you have to read? You have to write? Go ahead and reflect, and gather, I mean, did you use some of those? Did you just write right? Right? And then you're done with your podcast?

Christopher Thompson: We had to use a lot of

Christopher Thompson: listening and speaking

Christopher Thompson: because, first of all, when you're listening, imagine if someone was a host and you were the guest in the podcast

Christopher Thompson: you, you can't just suddenly like, say everything. And then your guest is just like waiting and waiting for

Christopher Thompson: you to finish. You have to speak the right amount and like, listen. So it will be a like a nice, podcast with smooth talking

Christopher Thompson: and writing, because we wrote about our

Christopher Thompson: our changemaker and our topics in our journals.

Christopher Thompson: Yes, what other skill do we have to use for podcasting?

Christopher Thompson: Oh.

Christopher Thompson: like

Christopher Thompson: M.

Christopher Thompson: Collaboration, because of, we both had to work good together, because if we didn't do that like the

Christopher Thompson: post-war them agreeing like

Christopher Thompson: one person, I'm not gonna announce it

Christopher Thompson: am like

Christopher Thompson: they wouldn't want to do. The host didn't want to do it anymore, because they were arguing too much.

Christopher Thompson: And when you're arguing you should just keep doing it and

Christopher Thompson: you get it right? You can just leave directly when you just start arguing, and it collaborates in perseverance.

Christopher Thompson: You know.

Christopher Thompson: you wanted to sample something to Bryson.

Christopher Thompson: he he basically said, we had this answer.

Scott Jamieson (he/him): Christian that actually makes me wonder

Scott Jamieson (he/him): what challenges did you face as new Podcasters when you're working on putting your podcast together.

Christopher Thompson: For all of us. I think this was one of the challenges that we've pretty much all faced

Christopher Thompson: was trying to get the time wise, not too long, but not too short, and trying to find the music that wasn't too loud, but not too quiet, and I think we all needed to play around with that a little bit, because it's really hard just to do one thing and then say it's perfect.

Christopher Thompson: like, nothing's perfect without like practice or doing it all.

Christopher Thompson: You, indeed! Do you want to add to that? I see you, Maddie?

Christopher Thompson: Mmm, so

Christopher Thompson: some challenges I faced by using it and making progress towards that.

Christopher Thompson: I had to like

Christopher Thompson: like work really well with my partner, and then

Christopher Thompson: not

Christopher Thompson: not, or do I have to do

Christopher Thompson: work hard on my pockets. I also had to do work on my partners podcast

Christopher Thompson: and then

Christopher Thompson: and some challenges I faced was

Christopher Thompson: when you work hard on many things like.

Christopher Thompson: it's hard to like, kind of concentrate on one thing.

Christopher Thompson: and then sometimes your thing gets bad, and then.

Christopher Thompson: yeah. But when you

Christopher Thompson: okay, focused. And then

Christopher Thompson: concentrate on things that what you're supposed to do.

Christopher Thompson: and I think it will work.

Scott Jamieson (he/him): I think so, too, just being able to kind of focus and prioritize. It sounds like there's a lot of critical thinking going on here, too, as we think about getting everything kind of like the 3 Bears, like, just right, just like Goldilocks, you know, getting everything just right with our music and our timing and the link. Then all those pieces. And there's so much critical thinking. And it goes into our podcasting.

Scott Jamieson (he/him): I want to think a little bit about audience.

Scott Jamieson (he/him): I think, like a normal kind of classroom experience. When we're doing our writing.

Scott Jamieson (he/him): how many people read your writing versus a podcast and how many people are listening to your, to your podcast? Is the audience the same, or are they different.

Christopher Thompson: So one thing

Christopher Thompson: is that when you're writing it's kind of like your personal journal. Of course you can share it with your class. But it's most likely just to keep it to yourself to keep your plans.

Christopher Thompson: But with a podcast it depends on

Christopher Thompson: what you mean, like is, it, global, or is it not?

Christopher Thompson: If it wasn't, maybe our classmates would listen to it, which is how we got here, cause they've listened to it and voted. But if it was global, a lot of more people would be be able to hear it and see, say, like, Oh, yeah, I can relate it to that. Or Oh, yeah, that makes sense.

Christopher Thompson: you know. So

Christopher Thompson: I don't think a lot of people would read my writing because

Christopher Thompson: you might not want to read my Ryan, because if you see the front cover like the front of it.

Christopher Thompson: my handwriting is very sloppy, but then I improved it on like the next 15 pages.

Christopher Thompson: Do you feel a podcast helps, you to be able to share yeah

Christopher Thompson: it? Because, like.

Christopher Thompson: if you have like.

Christopher Thompson: let me, just if you have like a bad cover, and like not really many people are rated because it's like

Christopher Thompson: we have a back covered, and

Christopher Thompson: they think you have a bad insight. But

Christopher Thompson: really.

Christopher Thompson: sometimes you may have a bad cover because you just started. But in the insight

Christopher Thompson: it's good. So you could say they're judging your cover, basically. But then, when the podcast. They listen and they hear you speaking like, Oh, this kid's got it together. He knows what he's talking about.

Christopher Thompson: Yeah, exactly.

Scott Jamieson (he/him): Imagine. If there are some other fourth grade teachers listening to our podcast

Scott Jamieson (he/him): why should they bring podcasting into their classroom and create opportunities for students to be Podcasters. What's the big? Why, why should we do this?

Christopher Thompson: Okay, okay. So

Christopher Thompson: basically, we should do this because.

Christopher Thompson: like.

Christopher Thompson: some people, wanna do this because they wanna be heard in the world. Like.

Christopher Thompson: let me just take a random

Christopher Thompson: app. So basically, Youtube.

Christopher Thompson: like, you have to edit the cover and stuff

Christopher Thompson: like people want to be heard on there. But like.

Christopher Thompson: it's a video. What if you just mess up and forget to edit that on a podcast. You can re-listen, re-listen and re-listen. And then if you think it's good. You wouldn't be hurt to everyone that you know, or we make it be published like we're doing like we had

Christopher Thompson: when we published it. And yeah, I wanted to be heard.

Christopher Thompson: for I think that other teachers and other students should have podcasting in their schools. Because.

Christopher Thompson: first of all, it's really fun

Christopher Thompson: to have your devices and make your own kind of podcast to share with your school, or eventually like this, what we're doing

Christopher Thompson: also because

Christopher Thompson: sometimes.

Christopher Thompson: maybe later in your life, you might do something that involves like podcasting or speaking in front of a lot of people, maybe on camera and those skills that you learn with the podcasting can help. You can help you like, learn up. So when you're maybe introduced to a new job or something. When you're older. It won't be like as difficult.

Scott Jamieson (he/him): Any other thoughts.

Christopher Thompson: Why should we do it?

Christopher Thompson: Probably we should do it because, like

Christopher Thompson: if you really, if you wanna like

Christopher Thompson: like you wanna be famous on Youtube or something? If you would. You can do a podcast and be like another step up like you improved like a skill

Christopher Thompson: like being able to talk more on when people are listening to you

Christopher Thompson: and button when you're doing

Christopher Thompson: like a video that's like you have one more step. And that's like being seen.

Christopher Thompson: Yeah.

Christopher Thompson: music.

Scott Jamieson (he/him): Soon.

Christopher Thompson: I think we should do this. Because, like for podcasts, like many of people,

Christopher Thompson: wants to do something. But then they can't do it. And then but like, if you do that in, podcast you can like persuade other people to do like, how do you want? And then, like you can really make the change you want.

Scott Jamieson (he/him): I wanna build on what Uj is talking about here, we talks about change.

Scott Jamieson (he/him): We all made podcasts

Scott Jamieson (he/him): based around a change maker who we thought was really important or an issue. That was something we were really passionate about.

Scott Jamieson (he/him): how might we be able to use podcasting, to have an impact in our community.

Christopher Thompson: one thing about podcasting is, as I said before, it can be like personal in one space, or it can be global. So many people can listen to and say, like.

Christopher Thompson: Oh, I agree with that. Oh, yeah, I can relate to that. I think we should stop using plastic. Or I think, yeah, that person's actually really helpful. So they can start like adding up. And then your, you can make a change in the world, because a lot of people could say, yeah, I agreed. And then it could work together and start like, make an impact.

Scott Jamieson (he/him): I think that's absolutely true. You know, we could start with something that we care about. And if we can create a podcast. About it, and other people are listening to that. They're becoming more deeply aware of this, and they might join us. And caring about this, we may be able to work together and collaborate and work towards some positive

Scott Jamieson (he/him): impact in our community. I think that's really exciting. I think that's a power of all media is our ability to reach a larger audience and create a sense of unity and create a sense of belonging.

Scott Jamieson (he/him): and really invite others to care about what we care about and think about how we might be able to use that to lead change in our community, whether that's more PE and less German or

Scott Jamieson (he/him): any real issue that we care about in our community.

Scott Jamieson (he/him): So I just wanna say, thank you to all of you to

Scott Jamieson (he/him): oh, that's my train. I thought, I'm Gonna, show that over this is why we're not live.

Scott Jamieson (he/him): I let me see.

Scott Jamieson (he/him): I just want to say, thank you to all of you guys for joining me on the podcast today, Ezra Zuzu, Bryson, Christian Yunj, and our special guest host, a big shout out to Mr. Chris and Miss Schuster, who are here as well on the podcast today. It was so amazing to get to connect to you. And I have had the privilege of

Scott Jamieson (he/him): kind of following along your journey behind the scenes with Miss Schuster and Mr. Chris. As all this has come together in your classroom, and I am so excited we've had the opportunity to have a conversation with you today.

Scott Jamieson (he/him): Have you join me on my podcast and share your expertise as podcasters with our listeners. So thank you so much for the amazing work you did on this project, and thank you for working so hard to be change makers in your community.

Christopher Thompson: So. Thank you. Thank you.

Scott Jamieson (he/him): Alright. Can you guys do one more thing for me before we kind of wrap this up? I I want we're gonna kind of city together, and maybe Mr. Chris, and count us in, we're gonna say, thank you for listening to the empathy to impact, podcast

Scott Jamieson (he/him): give me that for me. So thank you for listening to the empathy to impact podcast

Scott Jamieson (he/him): alright, Mr. Chris, can you count us in

Scott Jamieson (he/him): pretty good.

Christopher Thompson: Pretty good. One more reise.

Scott Jamieson (he/him): Let's do one more. Let's do one.

Christopher Thompson: Yes, alright, I'll cut it. I'll I'll work there with a second ready. 3.

Christopher Thompson: Thank you for listening to the empathy and impact podcast.

Scott Jamieson (he/him): Perfect. That would be better.

Christopher Thompson: Nailed it, nailed it.

Scott Jamieson (he/him): Alright! John! Alright!

Christopher Thompson: Scott any of these.